So Spank Me

As much as I hate cross talk in a meeting there are times when sharing what needs to be shared and not cross talking seems almost impossible. Side conversations are annoying, too, but often less so. I’m afraid I participated in both yesterday. Actually I managed the cross-talk thing more successfully. The side conversation thing was to point out something to a sponsee. Since I frequently judge myself too harshly about many things I’m going to absolve myself of this particular sin.

I’m not as eager to absolve the woman who was the target of my cross talk. In fact I just got off the phone with my friend Owen who was also disturbed by this chick who was aparently there not for recovery, but rather to promote her business and spewed a version of the message on AA based on a poor understanding of both the program and the English language. I guess it’s OK for her to think that because the 1st step says “we WERE alcoholic” and that our lives “WERE unmanagable” that it means that she now has power over alcohol. She is, after all, a “nationally certified Christian counselor”. We were all invited to take one of her cards which were pinned up by the stack on the announcements bulletin board.

Correct me if I’m wrong, I said, but doesn’t the book say that no real alcoholic ever recovers control? My understanding is that lack of power and an inability to control is exactly what the problem is and that my only hope of being delivered from the problem is to seek and align myself with a greater power by taking certain, simple, clear-cut steps. I believe it says that what I get isn’t control, but rather a “daily repreive based on my spiritual condition”. I think it also says that at some point there will be nothing standing in between me and picking up except that Higher Power. My experience is that I “recovered from a seemingly hopeless state of mind and body”, not that I have regained power over drugs and alcohol. I have not been given the power to control drugs and alcohol. The problem of desiring to control them was simply removed. And that is what I shared.

I am impressed that she is “nationally certified” but wonder if she is state licensed. And since the message I heard from her was not THE message of AA, I threw her cards in the garbage after the meeting. Maybe that wasn’t the right thing to do.

So spank me.

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  1. You’re bad! Come sit next to me. LOL

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  2. I am thinking that no matter what she thought, she should not have used a meeting to promote her business. It screams tacky to me.

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  3. Hopefully she was not promoting controlled drinking! I have always interpreted the AA message as being that if we were in control of our recovery we would be more able to influence our life. That no one can completely control any situation is, for me, understood whether or not one has an issue with addiction. Hence the value in everyone giving their life over to a power greater than themselves—it’s not just for alcoholics, I think.

    And AA is very clear about promoting outside business in the rooms—it’s tradition not to. But then so is cross-talking and side conversations if not expressly stated.

    Overall I find it best not to judge period, myself or others. Of course, for me, that’s soooo easy to say and soooo hard to do. It is a matter of practice over and over.

    In the spirit of not judging, lest I come across that way, my thoughts here are really about what I took away from your post for myself. In that way you have been quite influential.

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  4. Sorry, that was me up there, Wayward Son. I forgot to enter my info and came off as being anonymous when I did not intend to.

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  5. … completely anonymous, that is. LOL

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  6. Overall I find it best not to judge period, myself or others. Of course, for me, that’s soooo easy to say and soooo hard to do.

    LOL Actually, because of the architecture of the human brain I don’t believe that it is physiologically possible to never judge. But I think you’re right, it isn’t nesicessarily the judging, but what we do with it; how we use it as an opportunity to examine ourselves.

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  7. Hey Tex, I think the chairperson should have shut her up in a kind loving way. One time at a meeting the chair person asked for a topic and one guy wanted to talk about Al Gore and global warming! The chair person set him straight. It is also the responsibility of the chair to address cross talk etc. We also have to put principles before personalities, but in this case it sounds like the principles were being undermined. Oh, yeah and the people who always say the same thing…two experiences on that one.I asked my sponsor about it one day and said I could not bear to listen to these two people in particular who obviously did not work a program and always said the same thing at every meeting and she said, well, somehow God has kept them sober despite what you think of them. Ouch! And the second experience was that I finally actually “heard” what the person said and it helped me that day. hey sorry I never did the mem, I did one very similar to it recently though, should be in my archive. you sound great, school job and sobriety is a heavy load! God bless.

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